Why so soon…?

There have been a few discussions and debates recently on the topic of over-treating in healthcare and physiotherapy. Now, this is a good thing as over-treating patients is something that is not often recognised and something that is discussed even less. But why does over-treatment occur in physio, how do we know when it is happening, and what can we do about it?

I see and hear day in and day out many healthcare professionals over-treating many things that just don’t need it, often because the condition has a favourable natural history or a very high chance of getting better on its own without any interference or meddling.

However, many healthcare professionals do not like not treating patients. Many healthcare professionals and of course patients like to treated for their issues, and the fancier the treatment, often the better. Now I don’t blame healthcare professionals at all for wanting to treat their patients, it is after all why most of us go into this line of work, to help those we see in pain and distress. Trying to help patients is in most clinicians nature, as well as in their training, and so this is always going to be hard to go against.

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Yet despite their nature and their training healthcare professionals need to be as aware of when they don’t need to intervene with a patients just as much as when they do. All clinicians need to recognise when their interventions and treatments could be doing more harm than good. But this is easier said than done for some.

For example, our medical colleagues know you don’t ever treat a viral infection with antibiotics, doing so is not only ineffective but also harmful as it can increase the risk of antibiotic resistance. Also, our surgical colleagues know that they can’t and shouldn’t be operating on everyone they see, to do so would be a clear sign of over-treatment, although I do recognise that surgery is very much over-used for many things in MSK healthcare.

And I do recognise that it is a little harder for physios to decide who they should and shouldn’t treat due to the conditions they see, but mainly due to the harms and risks of the treatments they provide being far less obvious than our medical and surgical colleagues. But is it really that different for physios than medics and surgeons?

Should physios treat everyone they see?

Absolutely not, and if you are an MSK physiotherapist and you find that you are treating every patient you see, then I would argue you are most likely over-treating unless you work in a specific niche area!

Now, as usual, many disagree with me here and think that as physios we should be doing everything we can with everyone we see, even if we can only give some patients short lasting minimal pain relief, it is still better than doing nothing. I disagree.

In my opinion, always trying to unnecessarily reduce pain when it’s not essential often gets in the way of what we should be doing more, which is educating and reassuring patients of their prognosis and helping them to find ways and means of how they can cope and self-manage for the long term.

Also before all the straw man building, false dichotomy preaching loons start screaming at me, just because I think we need to reduce both the amount and the variance of the treatments we offer as physios, this doesn’t mean that I think we shouldn’t treat anyone ever!


We clearly do need to help and assist some patients more than others for lots of different reasons, be that due to the condition they have, their beliefs and attitudes, or their abilities and motivation. Simply put some patients will need more help and assistance than others.

But for those that don’t need our time, help, and assistance and have a favourable natural history’s they should be told and discharged. However, many physios feel awkward doing this for a number of reasons. First as I already mentioned because it is in their nature to try and help, but also because not treating a patient is hard bloody work.

Not treating a patient often requires more time and effort than treating one, but more importantly not treating doesn’t get financially or emotionally rewarded very well!

Many patients when they don’t get treatment will feel hard done by because it is often perceived as uncaring, cold, and discompassionate. Therefore taking the time to clearly and compassionately explain and educate a patient about how and why they don’t need treatment is both challenging, time-consuming and often a thankless task. This is really why many physios don’t do it.

How can you avoid over-treating patients?

I have a ridiculously simple and straightforward method that ensures I am hopefully not over treating anyone I see. All this involves is asking the patient to decide when they want to come back next, not me!

Rarely these days will I make the decision of when a patient should come back for a follow-up session. I will only do this when I have a specific timeline of when I need to assess or check something such as postoperative wound check, or perhaps a time-constrained change in rehab, only then will I stipulate when the next session is.

By asking the patient to decide when they come back for a further session means you as the clinician are side-stepping the decision making and letting the patient decide when they should next be seen. This I think is beneficial for a number of reasons.

First, it puts the patient in control of their treatment and helps remove the clinician/patient hierarchical barriers, but it also allows you an opportunity to evaluate the patient’s self-efficacy and their locus of control as well as have a chance to discuss these things with the patient if needed

For example, when I patient asks me “when should I come back to see you”, and I respond with “when do YOU think you need to come back to see me?” Whatever their answer is I will almost invariably say “why so soon?”

Now I say this not just to be contentious, discompassionate, or a dick, but rather to allow me to gauge and explore the patient’s thoughts and feelings a little more about why they think they need to come back. It also occasionally allows me an opportunity to discuss with them any concerns or misunderstandings that may have arisen during the session if they state they didn’t understand something if time is permitting.

So there you go, I little tip you may want to use with some of your patients when it comes to arranging follow up sessions and a neat way to try and avoid over-treating patients. So the next time a patient tells you when they want to come back to see you, why don’t you politely ask them “why so soon?” and see where it takes you.

As always thanks for reading!


8 thoughts on “Why so soon…?

  1. You are absolutely right, it seems a curious way to evaluate how capable the patient can be and to be an active object of his recovery !!!
    thanks as always for sharing!
    I am a physiotherapist from Ecuador who studied manual therapy in Chile and Madrid (I know you hate manual therapy, I am also in that process)
    In my country phosiotherapy is a relatively new career so you can imagine the difficulties we have with professional hierarchies, the beliefs of the people and the education system we have!
    we always follow you in all networks, such as Logroños Fisioterapia (name of our rehabilitation clinic in Ecuador)
    A pleasure to read you and the best wishes in the course that you will dictate in Washington
    Andres Logroño

  2. I totally agree with asking the patient when to come back often instinctively know how often to come in but educating them about their condition is Also important then making a plan that suits the condition and aiming for great patient outcomes often requires a mutual discussion

  3. Hi,

    Great read as always. Interesting point at the end about asking the patient when they want to book in, I’m going to try that. Just out of interest and knowing that you work in private healthare, what is your NPS score/customer feedback like with this approach. Most big firms seem so bothered about how they are perceived. How do your methods fit into that setting?

    As always thanks for the hard work.


    • Hi Tom, lets just say I’ve had some run ins with private practice managers and owners in the past. However for me I am now on a fixed salary in private practice and this makes it so much easier, for both me and my employeers!

  4. Hi Adam, great blog as usual. Just wondering what your thoughts are on creating patient-therapist dependence, whether it be through ‘over treating’ or as I’ve seen argued many times manual therapy (I know you haven’t eluded to that in this article- but thought you might want to in the comments!)? Interested to get your take on this and whether it is based on anecdotal evidence or if you’ve managed to find anything in the literature. I can’t seem to find any evidence on the topic despite it making sense and having seen examples of it in clinical practice myself.

  5. Maybe this is taboo to discuss but here goes:

    Having worked in private practice and health systems, I’ve seen over treatment result from a few options:

    1. It was authorized by insurance…$$$…”You had twelve visits authorized, why’d you only see them for 6?”

    2. It helps keep a schedule looking full…gaps in a schedule get emails and talks from management.

    3. Bump up productivity…to benefit the therapist

    4. Ignorant, charlatan, or overplaying of one’s hand. We can help the ignorant…

    5. Patient’s job will not let them return to work until 100% able to perform all job duties

  6. Nice article,

    I was reprimanded for doing exactly this during my clinical placement because I didn’t have enough experience to know if they should ACTUALLY come back in or not. Probably for business reasons I suppose. My question is:

    If physiotherapists were so confident in their skills of implementing specific and effective interventions for each patient that they see, would we need to be so up in arms debating treatments? I think that we defend what we do so aggressively because physiotherapy is an applied science without exact answers for exact scenarios, unlike mathematics. Nobody but flat-earthers debate that 2×3 = 6. And the more the public knows this about physio, the less we can tell them to come in 2x a week for the next month and still sleep soundly at night.

    I think physiotherapists are great at diagnostic assessment, but from what I’ve seen thus far as a student about to graduate, is that they default to standardized treatment schemes once a patient is placed into a category of pathology.

    Does any other clinicians struggle with repetitive interventions that work great sometimes and sometimes don’t do shit? I’m asking honestly because I’m tired of feeling like there’s no truth to most interventions and I’m wasting people’s time outside of a nice conversation and some empathy.

  7. The simple answer for why over-treatment occurs is, in most cases, money. Many private MSK clinics would need to shut shop today if they didn’t over-treat. One other reason is the ‘Guru problem’. A Guru easily turns a simple MSK problem into a complex one. Follow the money.

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